<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Reasonably Happy ]]></title><description><![CDATA[The Skeptic's Guide to Achievable Contentment]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u5rf!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93edd947-3172-4f36-ab10-1c880d8afeb1_600x600.png</url><title>Reasonably Happy </title><link>https://words.paulollinger.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 17:50:11 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://words.paulollinger.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[paulollinger@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[paulollinger@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[paulollinger@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[paulollinger@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Freeze the Rent! And Other Silly Policies ( w/ Paula Pant)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Last week, I received a bill from New York City for $71,1783.16.]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/freeze-the-rent-and-other-silly-policies</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/freeze-the-rent-and-other-silly-policies</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 19:10:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/209530402/83cf839f672c50a86a9bcc93e32b90e3.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, I received a bill from New York City for $71,1783.16. It was the balance due for my Non-primary residence surcharge, aka the pied-&#224;-terre tax that is a premium on top of the $55k or so we pay in regular, old fashioned property tax.</p><p>We got pinged because our home is owned by our trusts, which are not New York  entities. The good news is that, since we are legit full-time residents, we will get out of this. Still, it&#8217;s pretty scary to get this kind of unexpected invoice.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg" width="394" height="390.91383812010446" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:760,&quot;width&quot;:766,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:394,&quot;bytes&quot;:164099,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/i/209530402?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F509a5cfd-aa7e-44a0-a9f7-16eb800519d7_768x1024.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aykh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f1eb8bc-4af9-470c-8da3-9bf817590d29_766x760.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Suffice to say, it&#8217;s a wild time in New York city real estate. In addition to this new second&#8212;or third or fourth&#8212;home tax, there are a ton of policy changes in the works, including but not limited to:</p><ul><li><p>The mayor and the Rent Guidelines Board just implemented a two-to-three year rent freeze for all the city&#8217;s rent stabilized units, comprising 41% of the supply of rental housing in the city.</p></li><li><p>Pending in the City Council is the Community Opportunity to Purchase Act (COPA) that, when it passes, will impose major restrictions on a multi-family unit owners&#8217; freedom to sell their building. </p></li><li><p>Potential &#8220;Mansion&#8221; Tax reform could lower the threshold from $1 million to $500,000 transactions, increase rates by 40%, and switch the liability from the buyer to the seller.</p></li></ul><p>In short, there&#8217;s a massive amount of uncertainty about the future, but all trends point to an increasingly hostile and expensive environment for property owners.</p><p><span>To try to make sense of how it works, I interviewed this week Paula Pant, founder and host of the </span><em><span>Afford Anything</span></em><span> podcast, a former newspaper reporter, and Knight-Bagehot Fellow at Columbia University. </span></p><p><span>Paula is a NYC-based landlord who has developed an expertise on the city&#8217;s rent stabilization system, where it came from, and how it works.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><span>Most people assume that rent stabilization exists to help poor people, but that&#8217;s not the priority. It operates more like a lottery system where random, lucky &#8220;winners&#8221; lock in below-market prices regardless of how much money they make. In fact, </span>a recent <em>Wall Street Journal</em> analysis indicated that more than 86,000 rent stabilized households earn over $200,000 a year!</p><p><span>The system and its adjacent policies protect bad tenants, disincentivize capital investment and construction, and have led to 57,000 vacant apartments because it&#8217;s less expensive to leave them empty than to participate in the city&#8217;s rigged game.</span></p><p><span>The whole thing is wacky and totally non-obvious. I learned a ton talking to Paula and I know you will too. Check it out.</span></p><div><hr></div><p>Follow Paula on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paulapant/">here</a>, or X (aka, Twitter) <a href="https://x.com/AffordAnything">here</a>. Get your free download: <strong><a href="https://affordanything.com/rent">7 Expensive Rental Property Mistakes to Avoid</a> </strong><br><br>Follow Me (Paul) on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paul_ollinger/">here</a>, or X (aka, Twitter) <a href="https://x.com/Paul_Ollinger">here</a>.</p><p>Get tickets to see me live in Sarasota 8/13-16 <a href="https://www.mccurdyscomedy.com/shows/show.cfm?shoID=499">here</a>. </p><div><hr></div><p><span>Timestamps<br><br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU"><span>00:00:00</span></a><span> Trailer<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=59s"><span>00:00:59</span></a><span> Intro<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=183s"><span>00:03:03</span></a><span> Hyper frugal in her twenties, for all the wrong reasons<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=331s"><span>00:05:31</span></a><span> A $27,000 down payment on an Atlanta triplex<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=501s"><span>00:08:21</span></a><span> Never be a landlord in New York City<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=513s"><span>00:08:33</span></a><span> The price to rent ratio, and how to run it on any apartment<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=850s"><span>00:14:10</span></a><span> Nobody has a right to 12% returns, and what a 9.9% cap would actually do<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=984s"><span>00:16:24</span></a><span> Rent control versus rent stabilization: 16,000 units against a million<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=1216s"><span>00:20:16</span></a><span> If it were designed to help poor people, there would be means testing<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=1416s"><span>00:23:36</span></a><span> True working class people are subsidizing the rich<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=1463s"><span>00:24:23</span></a><span> How the units actually get handed out, and the friend earning over $300,000<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=1832s"><span>00:30:32</span></a><span> The Rent Guidelines Board, the 7 to 1 freeze, and the resignation in protest<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=2227s"><span>00:37:07</span></a><span> Check credit or verify income, but not both<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=2481s"><span>00:41:21</span></a><span> The 2019 law and the $100,000 turnover no bank will finance<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=2965s"><span>00:49:25</span></a><span> 57,000 vacant units and the Community Opportunity to Purchase Act<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=3262s"><span>00:54:22</span></a><span> Austin as the model, and where Paula puts her own capital<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=3433s"><span>00:57:13</span></a><span> Analyst, not advocate. Data over dogma<br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_QELiyRAfU&amp;t=3516s"><span>00:58:36</span></a><span> Outro</span></p><div><hr></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Government-run Grocery Stores Are a Bad Idea]]></title><description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s worse than you think]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/why-government-run-grocery-stores</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/why-government-run-grocery-stores</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 19:05:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3OoQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc4f8587-730f-48f5-a963-f6a625d4feda_1536x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Grab your aprons, New Yorkers &#8211; we&#8217;re in the produce business!</span></p><p><span>This week, Zohran Mamdani announced that New York City will open five city-owned grocery stores beginning in 2027.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3OoQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc4f8587-730f-48f5-a963-f6a625d4feda_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3OoQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc4f8587-730f-48f5-a963-f6a625d4feda_1536x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3OoQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc4f8587-730f-48f5-a963-f6a625d4feda_1536x1024.png 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Image by ChatGPT</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>While I would normally applaud a politician keeping his campaign promise, the mayor&#8217;s plan to peddle poultry and potatoes is a dangerous distraction from far more serious problems. And it&#8217;s all part of his bigger, disturbing vision for a socialist city regime.</span></p><p><span>Government-owned grocery stores are a bad idea. For starters, they will hemorrhage cash. The initial build-out budget is $70 million, not including the cost of using city land and buildings that could otherwise generate funds for empty municipal coffers. He promises staple items at prices 30% below other retailers that survive on margins of just 2&#8211;3 percent (how&#8217;s that for &#8220;price-gouging&#8221;?). So, the stores will open tens-of-millions in the hole, then lose money on every sale. Not a great business model.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Tomorrow, I&#8217;m putting out an in-depth podcast conversation about rent control. Make sure you get it by subscribing now &#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><span>These stores will also compete with small, private businesses. Even if Crazy Z&#8217;s Mini-Marts aren&#8217;t selling prepared food, cigarettes or lottery tickets, their taxpayer-subsidized prices will penalize neighboring bodegas operated mostly by independent owners, many of whom are first generation immigrants. So much for lifting up </span><em><span>el hombre peque&#241;o</span></em><span>.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png" width="514" height="325.9512195121951" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:728,&quot;width&quot;:1148,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:514,&quot;bytes&quot;:1778830,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/i/209967551?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xzDh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d41e993-f898-4fdd-aa24-8369f85edb02_1148x728.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>The bigger issue here isn&#8217;t the stores themselves&#8212;it&#8217;s what they stand for. In his 2026 inaugural address, Mamdani boasted, &#8220;We will prove that there is no problem too large for government to solve, and no concern too small for it to care about.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>In Mamdani&#8217;s world, every problem has the same answer: more bureaucracy.</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Wife was mean to you? Call the NYC Department of Hurt Feelings</span></p></li><li><p><span>Shower drain clogged? Consult the Manhattan Bureau of Pipes and Hairballs</span></p></li><li><p><span>Your brother got a cookie bigger than yours? Text 311 and enter keywords #Inequality #MeUnhappy #NotFair</span></p></li></ul><p><span>Like the man said, there&#8217;s no concern </span><em><span>too small</span></em><span> for government.</span></p><p><span>Yes there is! Indeed, the whole reason governments evolved was to help our predecessors deal with problems that required collective action in the form of massive resources, cooperation and coordination. If you or I could staff our own police department, pave thousands of miles of roads, or maintain a sewer system, we wouldn&#8217;t need government.</span></p><p><span>But Paul, &#8220;discounted groceries&#8221; </span><em><span>sounds</span></em><span> so good! Yeah, so do &#8220;hangover-free alcohol&#8221; and &#8220;zero consequence sex.&#8221;  </span></p><p><span>Unfortunately, these staples are anything but cheap and, most importantly, they&#8217;re a huge distraction from far more critical projects. Since time and tax dollars are finite, every hour or dollar spent trimming the crusts off subsidized PB&amp;J&#8217;s means less work done on more important issues.</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/why-government-run-grocery-stores?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Someone you love wants to read this. Send it to them now! </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/why-government-run-grocery-stores?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/why-government-run-grocery-stores?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p><span>Every grocery store press conference Zohran conducts is less time fixing schools in which 43% of students fail to meet state reading and math standards. Every million dollars squandered on public cheese shops is a million less invested in the tens-of-billions of dollars in deferred maintenance of city-owned infrastructure or emergency preparedness.</span></p><p><span>Don&#8217;t think this matters? Los Angeles reservoirs ran dry just before fires reduced 10,000 homes to ashes in one of the most catastrophic disasters in U.S. history. That&#8217;s what happens when government takes its eye off the ball.</span></p><p><span>But never mind that &#8211; let&#8217;s spend $70++ million to help New Yorkers save 60 cents on Cheerios!</span></p><p><span>If the goal were about feeding poor families, there are far better ways to do that. The city could simply send $500 gift cards to the poorest 140,000 households, meeting the same objective more efficiently while supporting existing food retailers.</span></p><p><span>However, that&#8217;s not the objective. This is about the government insinuating itself into areas of life where it doesn&#8217;t belong. It&#8217;s socialism&#8217;s matriarchal creep into citizens&#8217; everyday life, absorbing power from individuals toward the end of state control.</span></p><p><span>Taxes go up. Freedom goes down. And once government gets into in your business, good luck getting it out. It&#8217;s misguided at best and breathtakingly arrogant at worst.</span></p><p><span>We should expect much more of it in the future.</span></p><div><hr></div><p style="text-align: center;">WHAT DO YOU THINK?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/why-government-run-grocery-stores/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/why-government-run-grocery-stores/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Nobel Prize Winner on "Moral Economics"]]></title><description><![CDATA[Alvin Roth's new book explores the way social mores inform the markets]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/nobel-prize-winner-on-moral-economics</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/nobel-prize-winner-on-moral-economics</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 10:06:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/208567635/b88f9a6f5c1f6700715e3150c865eac0.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, I sit down with Dr. Alvin Roth, Nobel Prize-winning economist, Stanford professor, and author of <em>Moral Economics: From Prostitution to Organ Sales, What Controversial Transactions Reveal About How Markets Work</em>. Al lays out why so-called repugnant markets, e.g. those for kidney sales, prostitution, or horse meat aren't moral failures so much as trade-offs. He argues we should judge controversial markets by their real-world consequences instead of instinct alone. We cover:</p><ul><li><p>Why it's easier to buy heroin than hire a hitman, </p></li><li><p>Iran's legal kidney market versus America's black market, </p></li><li><p>Winners and losers of rent control in New York, </p></li><li><p>Why I can&#8217;t get a horse meat hamburger in California, and</p></li><li><p>What a real accounting of scarcity and trade-offs actually looks like. </p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Want more great podcast episodes about prostitution and horse meat? Subscribe now &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div></li></ul><div><hr></div><p>Get tickets to see Paul in Sarasota, Florida <a href="https://punchup.live/paulollinger/tour">here</a>.</p><p>Follow Paul on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paul_ollinger">here</a> and on X (i.e. Twitter) <a href="https://x.com/Paul_Ollinger">here</a>. </p><p>Rate and Review Reasonably Happy <a href="https://ratethispodcast.com/paulopod">here</a>.</p><div><hr></div><p>Timestamps: </p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE">00:00:00</a> Trailer </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=67s">00:01:07</a> Intro </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=228s">00:03:48</a> What market design actually means </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=417s">00:06:57</a> Markets are better at producing efficiency than equality </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=608s">00:10:08</a> What makes a transaction &#8220;repugnant&#8221; </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=705s">00:11:45</a> Same-sex marriage as the textbook repugnant transaction </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=945s">00:15:45</a> Why it&#8217;s easy to buy drugs but nearly impossible to hire a hitman </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=1052s">00:17:32</a> Iran&#8217;s legal kidney market and America&#8217;s black-market problem </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=1330s">00:22:10</a> The case against price-gouging bans, from Sydney to snow shovels </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=1627s">00:27:07</a> The real winners and losers of rent control </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=1692s">00:28:12</a> California&#8217;s ban on horsemeat, and the loophole New York doesn&#8217;t have </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=2159s">00:35:59</a> How a PhD in operations research became a career in game theory </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=2222s">00:37:02</a> The 3 a.m. phone call that announced his Nobel Prize </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=2440s">00:40:40</a> The kidney transplant shortage and what it will take to fix it</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdky_40EiBE&amp;t=2511s">00:41:51</a> Outro </p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Lf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5cd9d655-ca0d-4fac-92b2-8a6af94a73d3_640x640.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Lf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5cd9d655-ca0d-4fac-92b2-8a6af94a73d3_640x640.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q3Lf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5cd9d655-ca0d-4fac-92b2-8a6af94a73d3_640x640.jpeg 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Gets Al&#8217;s book <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/alvin-e-roth/moral-economics/9781541702011/">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Empathy Is Destroying Western Civilization (with Gad Saad)]]></title><description><![CDATA[The NYT #1 bestselling author on self-destruction masquerading as kindness]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-empathy-is-destroying-western</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-empathy-is-destroying-western</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 13:07:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/206571636/9a54e4906568d4f3c9547e13617bdb57.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>My guest today is Dr. Gad Saad. Gad is an evolutionary behavioral scientist, professor, bestselling author, and one of the world&#8217;s most provocative public intellectuals. Born to a Jewish family in Lebanon and raised amid the chaos of civil war before fleeing his home country for Canada, he brings a unique perspective to questions about immigration, culture, integration, and why societies flourish&#8212;or decline.</span></p><p><span>In his new book, </span><em><span>Suicidal Empathy: Dying to Be Kind</span></em><span>&#8212;a New York Times #1 bestseller&#8212;Gad argues that empathy, while one of humanity&#8217;s greatest virtues, can become destructive when it&#8217;s untethered from reason and directed in ways that undermine the very people and institutions it&#8217;s meant to protect.</span></p><p><span>Whether he&#8217;s discussing evolutionary psychology, free speech, or consumer behavior, Gad has a talent for blending rigorous research with sharp wit, and for challenging conventional wisdom.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">For more conversations with people who are unfraid to speak their minds, subscribe now &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><span>Those challenges have made him a controversial figure. Not coincidentally, the long-time professor of marketing at Montreal&#8217;s Concordia University is now a scholar at the Declaration of Independence Center for the Study of American Freedom at the University of Mississippi. (Hotty Toddy!)</span></p><p><span>Today we&#8217;ll talk about the evolutionary roots of human behavior, the cultural forces re-shaping the modern West, and what it takes to think independently in an age of ideological conformity.</span></p><p><em>Follow Gad on X <a href="https://x.com/GadSaad">here</a>.</em></p><p><em>Get tickets to Paul&#8217;s upcoming shows in San Francisco, Southhampton, and Sarasota <a href="https://punchup.live/paulollinger/tour">here</a>.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-empathy-is-destroying-western/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-empathy-is-destroying-western/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Richest Family You've Never Heard Of]]></title><description><![CDATA[And that's just how the Johnson family wants it]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-richest-people-youve-never-heard</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-richest-people-youve-never-heard</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 10:07:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/205943396/f6ab710cd26b0e580b8a1843deacdbe9.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Me:</strong> Ever heard of the Johnson family? They&#8217;re crazy successful.</p><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> You mean the people who started Johnson &amp; Johnson, makers of BAND-AID, hip replacements, and a thousand prescription drugs?</p><p><strong>Me:</strong> No. </p><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> Oh, you must mean the family behind SC Johnson, the Wisconsin-based consumer products like Ziploc and Windex?</p><p><strong>Me:</strong> No. </p><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> You mean like Howard Johnsons?</p><p><strong>Me:</strong> God no, you big dummy. What are you, stuck in 1966?</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">You should probably subscribe &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> Sorry, I&#8217;m not smart. Who are you talking about and why are there so many rich families named &#8216;Johnson&#8217;? </p><p><strong>Me:</strong> Well, &#8216;Johnson&#8217; is one of America&#8217;s most common surnames, so it would follow that there&#8217;s a few that have crushed it. The specific family I&#8217;m referring to are the founders of financial services firm, Fidelity.</p><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> Fidelity - they&#8217;re kind of a big deal, right? And why are you asking?</p><p><strong>Me:</strong> I&#8217;m asking because my podcast guest this week is Justin Baer, award-winning journalist at the <em>Wall Street Journal</em> and author of the new book <em>House of Fidelity: The Rise of the Johnson Dynasty and the Company that Changed American Investing</em>. It&#8217;s going to blow you away how big they are. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg" width="426" height="281.25868725868725" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:513,&quot;width&quot;:777,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:426,&quot;bytes&quot;:87980,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d-oG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffad89a52-8ede-48f5-b780-5936df702801_777x513.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8216;House of Fidelity&#8217; by my guest, Justin Baer</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> Okay, how big are they? </p><p><strong>Me:</strong> Fidelity is one of the largest private companies in America and they administer over $18 <em>trillion</em> in assets&#8212;that&#8217;s greater than the GDPs of Germany, Japan, the United Kingdom, and France <em>combined</em>. (Or, it&#8217;s18 Elon Musks.) Last year, they earned almost $13 billion in <em>profit</em>, half of which goes to the family.</p><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> You like italics <em>a lot</em>.</p><p><strong>Me:</strong> I do. Anyway, in this conversation, Justin and I discuss:</p><ul><li><p>How this financial family dynasty was built</p></li><li><p>Succession planning for a complex and massive family business</p></li><li><p>The rise of Abigail &#8220;Abby&#8221; Johnson, Fidelity&#8217;s Chairman CEO and founder&#8217;s granddaughter, with estimated net worth of $35 billion (check out her LinkedIn profile below).</p></li></ul><p><strong>Also Me:</strong> Sounds great. I&#8217;m going to listen and check out Justin&#8217;s book <a href="https://www.justinbaerbooks.com/">here</a>. </p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-richest-people-youve-never-heard?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Please share this pod with other financial nerds.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-richest-people-youve-never-heard?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" 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She went from HBS into the family business. It seems to have worked out.</figcaption></figure></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[TRIGGERnometry's Francis Foster on Teaching, Comedy, and Why the U.K. is Fucked]]></title><description><![CDATA[From the '5 Questions' live stream]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/triggernometrys-francis-foster-on</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/triggernometrys-francis-foster-on</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:07:08 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/203540815/092b54d99fdcbabf0db1df73bfea4153.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis Foster is the co-host of <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Triggernometry&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:73358715,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8abebf4d-fe00-43ae-98e2-11ef03e40de3_1280x1280.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;b3d0877b-81dd-42b8-a808-7c2e530faf6b&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> and author of the new book <em>(Un)Educated: My Life as a Teacher, and Why You Should Never Become One</em> (which you should buy <a href="https://www.amazon.com/educated-Teacher-Should-Never-Become/dp/0349021503/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mG8gwCNiOsVHaDkl2VUVxz1SoYEvtgJmb7B91IBlME7LZneDnzuguP3qIEV-nQd1l4A_P8_dPdTt4Ie1gT-OiE_eRjWJUY6HPL_Nq3axiL4JURax3t6FeMjyHuVwyGaXrCrbrcVrq8EPfHKIhV0WIatoJ7BYrK4gPkhsDHHfsoZKmJCRg6vH-NBCcCw6GCgD-pmH5QCtAyaNCItFOHKV1fFBUyozU7Ku4LmY5LsnZfY.0NetGJX00NDzBiWduAcIA9X1qgESaLVWOLe0oHQAi1E&amp;qid=1782828907&amp;sr=8-1">here</a>).</p><p>In this honest, fun, and sometimes stark conversation, Francis and I discuss:</p><ul><li><p>Why teaching is a terrible job.</p></li><li><p>How the United Kingdom is &#8220;fucked&#8221; </p></li><li><p>The side benefits of making TRIGGERnometry</p></li><li><p>His love for Buc-ees* (which are closer to 50,000 square feet than the 8,000 I mentioned)</p></li><li><p>Why the Stone Roses won&#8217;t help incoming PM, Andy Burnham</p></li></ul><p>Get his book, and watch the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Francisfosterpod">Francis Foster Show</a> on YouTube.  </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Get more great conversations with amazing guests in your Inbox by subscribing here &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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(I&#8217;m sorry, Francis.)</figcaption></figure></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/triggernometrys-francis-foster-on?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/triggernometrys-francis-foster-on?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong>Some of my favorite clips</strong></h2><h5><strong>What&#8217;s going on in the U.K.? (00:10:23)</strong></h5><blockquote><p>Francis: &#8220;We are totally and utterly fucked.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;4b65ed6b-1ff1-49a8-9dd5-3ee4d1c28894&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>Why traditional media should be scared (00:24:12)</strong></h5><blockquote><p>Francis: I think the mainstream media realizes that the game is up. Their viewing numbers are going down. Their engagement is going down. Their advertising revenue is going down. Their relevance is going down. They can no longer shape the narrative. They can&#8217;t do it any more. They have not only a business model that is obsolete, but they have been exposed time and time again for lying to the audience. And you can&#8217;t do that. Because your audience will go &#8216;I don&#8217;t trust you, and if I don&#8217;t trust you, why am I going to get the news from you.&#8217; And they leave.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;a6ad3f55-d757-4217-a29e-2df93964eba0&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5>How teaching and comedy are similar (00:05:28)</h5><blockquote><p>Francis: Actually, teaching and comedy are very similar</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;eb2ffc09-82e8-4b9a-9a10-afb7b25a7afe&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><strong>See Paul Live in July:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Philadelphia: <a href="https://www.nextinlinecomedy.com/tickets">Next In Line Comedy</a>, 7/3</p></li><li><p>Los Angeles: <a href="https://www.tixr.com/groups/thevenicewest/events/2-pauls-1-show-ft-paul-ollinger-and-paul-farahvar-194388">The Venice West</a>, 7/21</p></li><li><p>New York: <a href="https://qedastoria.com/products/qed-presents-7-31-9-30">QED Astoria</a>, 7/31</p></li><li><p>San Francisco: <a href="https://www.cobbscomedy.com/shows/calendar/2026-07">Cobbs Comedy Club</a>, 7/23</p></li><li><p>Southampton, NY: <a href="https://www.sticksandstonescomedyclub.com/shows/357527">Sticks and Stones Comedy Club</a>, 8/1</p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/triggernometrys-francis-foster-on/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/triggernometrys-francis-foster-on/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[W. Kamau Bell on Cosby, Comedy, and Father's Day]]></title><description><![CDATA[5 Questions with Paul Ollinger]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-w-kamau-bell</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-w-kamau-bell</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 09:31:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/203149782/7e80686510a23b52a9177d1508590679.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was most pleased to speak this afternoon with W. Kamau Bell, a Peabody Award and 4-time Emmy-winning comedian, filmmaker, and television host who is also a <em>Celebrity Jeopardy</em> champion!</p><p>He is b<span>est known as the creator and host of CNN&#8217;s </span><em>United Shades of America </em><span>on which he spent seven seasons traveling the country exploring communities, subcultures, and perspectives that often go overlooked.</span><em> </em><span>The show demonstrated his unique skill of helping people conduct difficult conversations without losing their sense of humor.</span></p><p><span>Not that he&#8217;s afraid to mix things up. Kamau&#8217;s 2022 HBO docu-series, </span><em>We Need to Talk About Cosby</em><span> dove deep into numerous allegations of sexual assault against legendary comedian and television icon, Bill Cosby, a comedian whose work Kamau deeply admired. </span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hwll!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3baa3a2a-9666-46b0-9086-14dde952eef5_1402x1122.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hwll!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3baa3a2a-9666-46b0-9086-14dde952eef5_1402x1122.png 424w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This will make more sense after you listen to our conversation.</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Kamau </span> has a new podcast called <em>Who&#8217;s With Me? </em>on which he has already talked to Ted Danson, Delroy Lindo, Daveed Diggs, and Kristen Kish.</p><p>He <span>spoke to me from his home in Oakland, CA where he lives with his wife and their three daughters. </span>In this occasionally-serious, but most enjoyable conversation, we discuss:</p><ul><li><p>The difference between craft and character</p></li><li><p>His love of podcasting</p></li><li><p>Comedy nerd-ship</p></li><li><p>The best part about Father&#8217;s Day</p></li><li><p>And&#8212;most importantly&#8212; <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dave Barry&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:309960081,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F448276cf-788f-4fb7-aed4-783bb66b8dd1_800x800.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;4dbc9e9b-a356-400a-93cd-d42e51ab5b36&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> </p></li></ul><p><span>See clips and leave comments below. In the mean time, subscribe to Kamau&#8217;s &#8216;Who&#8217;s With Me?&#8217; Substack </span><a href="https://wkamaubell.substack.com/s/whos-with-me-with-w-kamau-bell-the"><span>here</span></a> and to Paul&#8217;s &#8216;Reasonably Happy&#8217; Substack <a href="https://words.paulollinger.com/">here</a>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-w-kamau-bell?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-w-kamau-bell?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong>Some of my favorite clips</strong></h2><h5>On podcasting (00:02:31)</h5><blockquote><p><em>Paul:</em> Let&#8217;s talk about that podcast. I listened to Ted Danson and Delroy Lindo&#8212;great conversations with two very interesting guys. What do you enjoy most about podcasting?</p><p><em>Kamau:</em> It&#8217;s a way to have conversations with people I want to have that I probably wouldn&#8217;t have if I didn&#8217;t have a work-related reason to reach out. </p><p><em>Paul:</em> Would you do it for free? </p><p><em>Kamau:</em> I would. In fact, I&#8217;m currently losing money on it, so the answer is clearly yes. The podcast gives you a dedicated reason to have those conversations, and it makes it less weird that I&#8217;m asking very focused questions. Because if I went out to dinner with you and said, &#8220;Tell me about that time you did blackface, Ted Danson,&#8221; that&#8217;s going to be a pretty strange way to start a conversation.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;fd38ec70-759e-4323-b00b-c94b61b5e05c&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>On being an &#8220;only&#8221; child (00:07:23)</strong></h5><blockquote><p><em>Kamau:</em> Only children don&#8217;t just <em>want</em> to be alone sometimes&#8212;they <em>need</em> to be alone. It&#8217;s a requirement. It&#8217;s no different from needing to eat or sleep. Only children need to be left the hell alone once in a while, and it&#8217;s not weird; it&#8217;s simply how we grew up. If we don&#8217;t get that time to ourselves, we get depleted.</p><p>I think this ties into the idea of a &#8220;social battery.&#8221; Everyone has a different-sized social battery, meaning a different capacity for being around other people. Some people actually get energized by social interaction&#8212;their battery charges up when they&#8217;re with others. Only children, on the other hand, tend to get drained pretty quickly by being around too many people for too long. Our social battery runs down.</p><p>Mine is definitely like that, although I&#8217;ve trained myself to function with a low social battery because I&#8217;m in show business. My middle child is the same way, and it&#8217;s helpful to give kids language for it. Sometimes she&#8217;ll be out and say, &#8220;My social battery is low.&#8221; What she means is, &#8220;I&#8217;ve been around a lot of people today. I need to relax. I need to be home.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;86e0da9d-1bde-4c05-a34e-13ed9669492f&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5>On Bill Cosby (00:16:56)</h5><blockquote><p><em>Paul:</em> When you called out Cosby&#8212;on <em>We Need to Talk About Cosby</em>&#8230;</p><p><em>Kamau:</em> Man&#8212;I didn&#8217;t expect this conversation to go from Scooby-Doo to Bill Cosby, but here we are. </p><p><em>Paul:</em> Did you ever feel like the guy at the end of a Scooby-Doo episode exposing the crook who&#8217;d been hiding in plain sight? Like, &#8220;It&#8217;s Dr. Huxtable!&#8221;</p><p><em>Kamau:</em> I definitely felt that way to some extent. So much of the Cosby story was known behind closed doors. People talked about it privately, but it hadn&#8217;t really been discussed publicly. When he went to jail, I thought, &#8220;Okay, now we can finally talk about this openly.&#8221; I had no idea he would get out of jail in the middle of our production. At that point, I thought, &#8220;Huh, I may never be able to leave my house again,&#8221; because I knew this wasn&#8217;t going to be popular with a lot of people.</p><p>There was definitely a period afterward where I took a lot of heat. It&#8217;s probably the best work I&#8217;ve ever done, but it also caused me the most personal stress. Every time I started feeling overwhelmed by that, though, I thought about the women who had spoken out. If they could come forward and endure what they endured, I could certainly take a few hits.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;3028fb64-ca3b-415f-925b-79a33dcf747a&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><p>Thank you <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Laura &#128087;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:84475978,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@notacatccl&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5e66a468-5aa6-4945-9f96-26c6ccd2b0d8_826x827.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;8e01776a-7d65-4a4e-8a33-4566c12dc257&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Kit&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:31033737,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@dkit63&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/da376292-1c53-46f9-a332-fd5f03a1fd39_1165x705.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;05e6f490-2f55-4076-a299-0a0dac50cb26&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jinx Corle&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:312826616,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@jinxdaviscorle&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c9b11242-1350-4d65-904e-cdb6aa70f084_1077x839.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;505c20f3-71de-4a99-a0e1-c62799bfc671&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Heather A Murphy&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:200342652,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@heatheramurphy&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:null,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;0ab554ac-ed05-4cc0-ab98-c9f75d1e0104&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dan Stone&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:17372229,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@dan&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/992eb132-2891-43c3-838d-651ed21d59a0_264x264.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;b5d11f4a-4451-4611-b7f9-f8584812bcd0&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, and many others for tuning into the live video w/Kamau! </p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Reasonably Happy explores the ways we can better understand the world and ourselves. Join the team. &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[5 Questions with Bruce Feiler]]></title><description><![CDATA[The NYT best-selling author of 'A Time to Gather' chats ritual, tooth-filing, Taylor Swift cupcakes, and SEC football]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-bruce-feiler</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-bruce-feiler</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 09:52:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/202294425/72feaaa93bfd7bb7c23ca6e697ff7757.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much to Bruce Feiler for joining me on the <em>5 Questions</em> livestream to discuss his new book <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Time-Gather-Ritual-Created-World/dp/0593656431/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;dib_tag=AUTHOR&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lzlWtiwc3RYWkE7G0pcLpisPwSi43qa1fSTMhv-NiTuDZ2kIFUjrQtZgsqYYBz4gWDs-ygTzUhEdee-DeYGLcMUN5DWMsOjO8dmepVyQ4sVHfvDXHwojYPPdOCGwUKZhAoksQ-5bNknRwXgGhzfj0X5aDRoov_0apgSGMPkK5Uvz-nFJHXcjOFjL9cuBXrkDkRT7XsbeYLdw2un4RgKZCsuiFRtBVpy76Lx9jK7Hxnc.zJk7yC_fPPlHaR9Gldng3XFrKazzGSpPw3owmMgqNFU">A Time to Gather: How Ritual Created the World&#8212;and How it Can Save Us</a></em>.</p><p>In this upbeat and friendly conversation, Bruce and I discuss:</p><ul><li><p>What came first, ritual or religion?</p></li><li><p>Why SEC football tailgating fits the definition of ritual</p></li><li><p>How Balinese tooth-filing ritual has much in common with modern Western dental customs</p></li><li><p>Why so many New Yorkers are jumping on the Knicks bandwagon (including someone&#8217;s wife who shall remain nameless) </p></li></ul><p>See clips and leave comments below. In the mean time, subscribe to Bruce&#8217;s &#8216;The Nonlinear Life&#8217; Substack <a href="https://brucefeiler.substack.com/">here</a> and to Paul&#8217;s &#8216;Reasonably Happy&#8217; Substack <a href="https://words.paulollinger.com/">here</a>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-bruce-feiler?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-bruce-feiler?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Some of my favorite clips</strong></h2><h5><strong>Paul asks Bruce about the sacred nature of college football tailgating  </strong><em><strong> </strong></em><strong>(00:12:33)</strong></h5><blockquote><p>&#8220;A ritual is a shared, unnecessary act, that makes us feel at home.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;a75625d8-76d0-43fe-adde-d82bfbab6637&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>Bruce on why New York has gone crazy for the Knicks </strong><em><strong> </strong></em><strong>(00:17:09)</strong></h5><blockquote><p>&#8220;Ritual is essential and it can save us. Because, whatever the problem is&#8212;if it&#8217;s loneliness, ritual is the answer. If it&#8217;s polarization, ritual is the answer. If it&#8217;s de-civilization, ritual is the answer.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;2adcf9ef-836d-4c25-8dcb-5d0d5deb331c&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>The performative nature of life&#8212;both online and IRL </strong><em><strong> </strong></em><strong>(00:22:01)</strong></h5><blockquote><p>&#8220;There is going to be a human response to the tech&#8230;but also, the internet can be a source of connection.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;90767a1a-7b4a-400a-a594-d981f952fbfa&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK IN THE COMMENTS BELOW&#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-bruce-feiler/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-bruce-feiler/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p style="text-align: center;"></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[5 Questions with Andy Borowitz ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Political satirist and comedian with an amazing television pedigree]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-andy-borowitz</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-andy-borowitz</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 15:08:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/201491767/45c01016d3f61142e687d3b12449e218.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this third episode of <em>5 Questions, </em>I speak with <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Andy Borowitz&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:42484457,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PDN5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf3f9eb8-9c7a-464e-8c39-2d988e5159cd_2732x2732.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;d9c07b7c-5660-4d89-b66e-b183de395a25&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, whose massively popular newsletter <em>The</em> <em>Borowitz Report</em> tops out around 200 words per post. So this intro is going to be brief!</p><p>Even if you belong to Andy&#8217;s army of loyal readers, you might not know that he is also the co-creator of <em>The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air</em> and wrote on classic 80&#8217;s TV shows, <em>The</em> <em>Facts of Life</em> and <em>Square Pegs</em>, which helped to launch Sarah Jessica Parker&#8217;s career. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Don&#8217;t miss upcoming interviews with W. Kamau Bell, Dave Winfield, and Jane Wiedlin. Subscribe here &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>In this fast-paced conversation, Andy and I discuss:</p><ul><li><p>His career in and out of Hollywood</p></li><li><p>How to write succinctly</p></li><li><p>His grammatical pet peeve(s)</p></li><li><p>Whether AI will ever be able to write comedy</p></li><li><p>The best advice he got from Susie Essman (aka, the secret to a happy life)</p></li></ul><p>Subscribe to <em>The Borowitz Report</em> here &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p><div class="embedded-publication-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:2337656,&quot;embedding_publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;The Borowitz Report&quot;,&quot;logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j0uq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c412677-09d3-4751-89d6-5028a70c20db_1280x1280.png&quot;,&quot;base_url&quot;:&quot;https://www.borowitzreport.com&quot;,&quot;hero_text&quot;:&quot;Home of Truth&quot;,&quot;author_name&quot;:&quot;Andy Borowitz&quot;,&quot;show_subscribe&quot;:true,&quot;logo_bg_color&quot;:&quot;#ffffff&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="EmbeddedPublicationToDOMWithSubscribe"><div class="embedded-publication show-subscribe"><a class="embedded-publication-link-part" native="true" href="https://www.borowitzreport.com?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_campaign=publication_embed&amp;utm_medium=web"><img class="embedded-publication-logo" src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j0uq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c412677-09d3-4751-89d6-5028a70c20db_1280x1280.png" width="56" height="56" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="embedded-publication-name">The Borowitz Report</span><div class="embedded-publication-hero-text">Home of Truth</div><div class="embedded-publication-author-name">By Andy Borowitz</div></a><form class="embedded-publication-subscribe" method="GET" action="https://www.borowitzreport.com/subscribe?"><input type="hidden" name="source" value="publication-embed"><input type="hidden" name="autoSubmit" value="true"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email..."><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"></form></div></div><h2><strong>Some of my favorite quotes</strong></h2><h5><strong>Will Smith and </strong><em><strong>The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air </strong></em><strong>(00:05:12)</strong></h5><blockquote><p><em>Andy:</em> I realized pretty soon after <em>Fresh Prince</em> went on the air that it was really lightning in a bottle. It was a very fluky success. It was this kid, Will Smith, who had never acted before. Although now it&#8217;s very much in the mainstream of TV and it&#8217;s like the most wholesome, all-American show in the world, at the time it was really going against the grain because the networks and the media&#8212;the corporate media in general&#8212;were terrified by hip-hop. Hip-hop was, to them, gangster rap. It was, I would say, the inherent racism of corporate media really showing its true colors&#8212;no pun intended. They were very terrified by what they knew that Will Smith had. At NBC, they knew that he had a lot of charisma, but they were terrified by what he might have. So they were always trying to get me to take the edges off&#8212;not that I could ever find any discernible edges in Will Smith. </p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;48614212-1bc6-49a4-9cc0-b00070a98459&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>Chat GPT Knock-knock joke (00:16:47):</strong></h5><blockquote><p><em>Paul:</em> I went to ChatGPT and said, write a knock knock joke about Andy Borowitz. And here&#8217;s what ChatGPT came back with. Knock knock.</p><p><em>Andy:</em> Who&#8217;s there?</p><p><em>Paul:</em> Andy.</p><p><em>Andy:</em> Andy who?</p><p><em>Paul:</em> Andy Borowitz,I just published a story saying 83% of Americans think this joke is funnier than the Constitution.</p><p><em>Andy:</em> That is absolutely horrible.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;74ebc414-0ef5-42ea-8695-a2c1b23b02d1&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>Andy on Life Choices (00:29:13):</strong></h5><blockquote><p><em>Andy:</em> I say this to my kids&#8212;I have three kids and this is maybe my only advice&#8212;I say &#8220;I do not have a big strong opinion about the choices you make other than I hope that when you make choices they will contribute to your being happy and healthy.&#8221; And when you make a choice if it&#8217;s going to make you happy for the moment like oh that drug looks kind of fun but it&#8217;s going to make you unhealthy, you should probably cross that off your list and just try to think about the choices you make are you going to be happy and healthy as a result of this choice. And even at my age I sort of feel like that&#8217;s kind of a good exercise.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;b0e27b7c-c192-4019-a586-0464e4e528d1&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><p><strong>See Paul tell jokes near you:</strong></p><p>&#8226; June 19 and 20 - <a href="https://www.thecomedycatch.com/events/133790">The Comedy Catch</a>, Chattanooga</p><p>&#8226; June 25 - &#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://punchup.live/show/454b032e-4a51-4f86-a93b-ba81829aaca8">Happy Couples Show</a>, West Side Comedy Club, NYC &#10084;&#65039;</p><p>&#8226; July 21 - <a href="https://www.tixr.com/groups/thevenicewest/events/paul-ollinger-194388">The Venice West</a>, Los Angeles </p><p>&#8226; July 23 - <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/2-pauls-1-show-paul-ollinger-san-francisco-california-07-23-2026/event/1C00647FB330F46A">Cobbs Comedy Club</a>, San Francisco</p><p>&#8226; Aug 1 - <a href="https://www.sticksandstonescomedyclub.com/shows/357527">Sticks and Stones Comedy Club</a>, Southampton, NY</p><p>&#8226; Aug 8 - Atlanta Country Club (private show)</p><p>&#8226; Aug 13-16 - <a href="https://www.mccurdyscomedy.com/shows/show.cfm?shoID=499">McCurdy&#8217;s Comedy Theatre</a>, Sarasota, FL</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vI20!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f01d72a-7019-4858-abcd-66c6507228a7_696x1244.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vI20!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f01d72a-7019-4858-abcd-66c6507228a7_696x1244.png 424w, 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grandfather]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/a-political-familys-prodigal-daughter</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/a-political-familys-prodigal-daughter</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2026 10:07:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/201227374/497b3d17aa1e1e2bbf822ab2e376fcf3.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guest today is Rosebud Baker. Rosebud is one of the sharpest and most honest voices in comedy today. She&#8217;s an Emmy-nominated and Writers Guild Award-winning writer whose credits include <em>Saturday Night Live</em>, <em>Inside Amy Schumer</em>, and <em>That Damn Michael Che</em>. </p><p>In her new autobiography,<em> Fully Baked: A Messy Memoir,</em> Rosebud shares the story of being the grand-daughter of James Baker, the former Secretary of State and Secretary of the Treasury who also served as White House Chief of Staff for Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5EYW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cd3c589-f2b3-4783-bf34-f83cfcfb4207_1680x1156.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5EYW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cd3c589-f2b3-4783-bf34-f83cfcfb4207_1680x1156.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5EYW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cd3c589-f2b3-4783-bf34-f83cfcfb4207_1680x1156.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Subscribe to get more great conversations with some of the most interesting people on the planet &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Her latest Netflix special is called <em>The Mother Lode</em>. She filmed half of it while eight months pregnant and the other half after giving birth. It was named one of the best comedy specials of 2025.</p><p>See Rosebud&#8217;s upcoming dates and get the book <a href="https://rosebudbaker.com/">here</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YQbl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7eac41c-1186-4684-909c-8ea8cb6f0429_1628x854.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YQbl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7eac41c-1186-4684-909c-8ea8cb6f0429_1628x854.png 424w, 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He will never die. He won&#8217;t die. This man has fallen down the stairs twice in the last year. He&#8217;s like 96 or 98 and he&#8217;s fallen down the stairs and he won&#8217;t take the elevator in his home &#8212; like honestly believes it could turn him gay.</p><p><strong>Paul:</strong> Like Luna bars!</p><p><strong>Rosebud:</strong> Yeah. He&#8217;s like, I will take the stairs every god damn day rather than getting in that gay machine. And I&#8217;m like they installed it for you cause you fell down the stairs and broke your spine. But he won&#8217;t do it. He&#8217;s just that kind of guy. And so there&#8217;s a stubbornness and a just a refusal to listen to anyone that sort of is in my blood.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;3aa8f4a7-8da9-41e8-aaa2-9196958e8f22&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><strong>On growing up in an affluent home (00:23:34)</strong></p><blockquote><p><strong>Paul: </strong>Do you have guilt for being raised in an affluent environment?</p><p><strong>Rosebud: </strong>No. Not at all. It was awesome. I look at my life growing up and I&#8217;m like holy shit, she didn&#8217;t have any idea how good she had it. But I don&#8217;t have guilt about it because I wouldn&#8217;t have known. That was part of being raised like that&#8212; you don&#8217;t know anything about anything. So you just get to imagine yourself as whoever you want.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;8af29eb7-3ed5-48b1-9880-c842e9f55e33&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><strong>See Paul tell jokes near you:</strong></p><p>&#8226; June 19 and 20 - <a href="https://www.thecomedycatch.com/events/133790">The Comedy Catch</a>, Chattanooga</p><p>&#8226; June 25 - <a href="https://punchup.live/show/454b032e-4a51-4f86-a93b-ba81829aaca8">Happy Couples Show</a>, West Side Comedy Club, NYC</p><p>&#8226; July 21 - <a href="https://www.tixr.com/groups/thevenicewest/events/paul-ollinger-194388">The Venice West</a>, Los Angeles (on sale soon)</p><p>&#8226; July 23 - <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/2-pauls-1-show-paul-ollinger-san-francisco-california-07-23-2026/event/1C00647FB330F46A">Cobbs Comedy Club</a>, San Francisco</p><p>&#8226; Aug 1 - <a href="https://www.sticksandstonescomedyclub.com/shows/357527">Sticks and Stones Comedy Club</a>, Southampton, NY</p><p>&#8226; Aug 8 - Atlanta Country Club</p><p>&#8226; Aug 13-16 - <a href="https://www.mccurdyscomedy.com/shows/show.cfm?shoID=499">McCurdy&#8217;s Comedy Theatre</a>, Sarasota, FL</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[5 Questions with A.J. Jacobs]]></title><description><![CDATA[I talk summer movies and USA at 250 with the multi-NYT best-selling author]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-aj-jacobs</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-aj-jacobs</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2026 15:08:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/200795689/9576106ed3899457c7961b0016b4ab86.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;A.J. Jacobs&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:280467,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ef192e8e-62ee-4463-b0b4-166e9a4beb40_364x336.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;108087fa-7bd5-4f96-b682-bdc86e0060da&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> is a journalist, bestselling author, self-described &#8220;human guinea pig,&#8221; and one of the most interesting people I know. I was excited to host him as the second guest on my <em>5 Questions</em> series of Substck livestreams. </p><p>Over the past two decades, A.J. has built a remarkable career by asking questions most of us would never think to ask&#8212;and then answering them by turning himself into the experiment. </p><p>He&#8217;s read the entire Encyclopedia Britannica, lived according to the Bible as literally as possible, pursued bodily perfection, traced his family tree to millions of relatives, thanked every person involved in making his morning cup of coffee, explored the world of puzzles, and most recently spent a year trying to live according to the original meaning of the U.S. Constitution.</p><div><hr></div><h4 style="text-align: center;"><em><mark data-color="#cfe2f3" style="background-color: rgb(207, 226, 243); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">See Paul&#8217;s comedy shows live in </mark><a href="https://punchup.live/show/454b032e-4a51-4f86-a93b-ba81829aaca8"><mark data-color="#cfe2f3" style="background-color: rgb(207, 226, 243); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">NYC</mark></a><mark data-color="#cfe2f3" style="background-color: rgb(207, 226, 243); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">, </mark><a href="https://www.thecomedycatch.com/events/133790"><mark data-color="#cfe2f3" style="background-color: rgb(207, 226, 243); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Chattanooga</mark></a><mark data-color="#cfe2f3" style="background-color: rgb(207, 226, 243); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">, LA (on sale soon) or </mark><a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/2-pauls-1-show-paul-ollinger-san-francisco-california-07-23-2026/event/1C00647FB330F46A?_gl=1*rb9uwb*_ga*MTM1Mjk3NTAyMS4xNzc4NjcyMTg5*_ga_C1T806G4DF*czE3ODEwOTMyMDMkbzQkZzAkdDE3ODEwOTMyMDMkajYwJGwwJGgw"><mark data-color="#cfe2f3" style="background-color: rgb(207, 226, 243); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">San Francisco</mark></a><mark data-color="#cfe2f3" style="background-color: rgb(207, 226, 243); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">.</mark></em></h4><div><hr></div><p>The result has been a string of New York Times bestsellers, including <em>The Know-It-All</em>, <em>The Year of Living Biblically</em>, <em>Drop Dead Healthy</em>, <em>Thanks a Thousand</em>, <em>The Puzzler</em>, and <em>The Year of Living Constitutionally</em>. Along the way, he&#8217;s become one of America&#8217;s most entertaining guides to the intersection of happiness, curiosity, gratitude, self-improvement, and human connection.</p><p>What I love about A.J.&#8217;s work is that beneath all the humor and outrageous experiments is a serious question: How should we live? And instead of lecturing, he goes out and tests ideas on himself&#8212;often with hilarious consequences.</p><p>Today we talk about:</p><ul><li><p>The USA&#8217;s 250th Birthday</p></li><li><p> Geeking out on compound anniversary words like &#8220;semiquincentennial&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Summer blockbuster movies</p></li><li><p>What I should keep in mind while I help my kids search for colleges</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Subscribe to get my upcoming interviews with Dave Winfield, Bruce Feiler, and Rosebud Baker right to your Inbox. &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Some of my favorite quotes</strong></h2><h5><strong>What Darwin taught A.J about romance (09:14):</strong></h5><blockquote><p>A.J.: One of my romantic heroes is Charles Darwin who, before he got married, made a pros/cons list of whether he should get married to his wife. And so, that&#8217;s some good thinking.</p><p>PAUL: Do you ever break that out and discuss it with Julie (A.J.&#8217;s wife)?</p><p>A.J.: She does not like that&#8230;because on Valentine&#8217;s Day I write a card that says &#8220;the benefits of being married to you outweigh the costs.&#8221; And she does not appreciate that humor So then I&#8217;ve stopped doing that joke So yeah, people don&#8217;t like pro-con thinking when it comes to love.</p></blockquote><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>What do you think about A.J.&#8217;s romantic moves?</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-aj-jacobs/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/5-questions-with-aj-jacobs/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;03129111-4a76-4e9c-ae68-93d702be0c5b&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>Reminder to be grateful (11:03):</strong></h5><blockquote><p>PAUL: What about America are you grateful for?</p><p>A.J.: I am grateful for quite a bit, I have to say. Well, I talked about this in my book. I&#8217;m grateful for, first of all, for democracy, for balance of powers. But I&#8217;m also grateful for progress &#8212; things like elastic in my socks. Because during this constitutional year, I tried to dress the part, because I was trying to get into the mindset of the founders and I wore these socks, and they didn&#8217;t have elastic in them. They had these woolen, knitted socks and they would just fall down and puddle around the ankles. All those little things that we take for granted&#8212;there&#8217;s a lot of horrible stuff going in the world, but let&#8217;s be grateful for elastic socks and elastic underwear!</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;399849d8-21c4-4314-b67f-d79fc0393538&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Subscribe to A.J.&#8217;s Substack, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;A.J. 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normal person's guide to approaching celebrities in public on the way to becoming their lifelong BFF.]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-talk-to-famous-people</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-talk-to-famous-people</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 15:45:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NErK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5e1ac37-ae6c-49ca-848b-dd8fbbae1528_1136x682.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in New York City means accidentally sharing public spaces with famous people. Whether you&#8217;re riding the subway, shopping at Warby Parker, or standing on line* at Pop-up Bagels, you bump into them everywhere.</p><p>You should never be intimidated by an actress or rock star just because he or she is way richer and more beautiful than you. But in case you are, here are a few pointers.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Don&#8217;t miss out on this valuable advice. Subscribe now! &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><strong>Take a selfie. </strong>By definition, celebrities crave attention. They might pretend to be perusing fresh produce at the farmers market with their toddlers, but they&#8217;re desperately hoping for a photo with a stranger. Since they have no &#8220;reasonable expectation of privacy,&#8221; go ahead and start snapping. Be sure to get the children in the shot.</p><p><strong>Tell them a very long story.</strong> When you meet someone from your favorite TV show, you must demonstrate that your lives are connected. They&#8217;ll be fascinated to learn that your cousin&#8217;s high school boyfriend went to college with their Uncle Bob (the one who was in that combine accident). A passive-aggressive nod to their humble beginnings will remind them that their success is a random coincidence, having little to do with innate talent or work ethic.</p><p><strong>Share Overly Personal Information.</strong> Do you have money problems, a prescription pill habit, or a fungal infection? By all means, describe each of these in minute detail to Mariska Hargitay at the meat counter. After all, if she didn&#8217;t want to hear about your most embarrassing ailments, why did she come to Zabar&#8217;s?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png" width="499" height="375.87012987012986" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:928,&quot;width&quot;:1232,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:499,&quot;bytes&quot;:1742709,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/i/199980207?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lb7r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5104768f-ce92-4f69-97ad-a221d6253319_1232x928.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Detective Benson wants to hear your confession. (MidJourney)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Critique their work. </strong>Similarly, when you find yourself standing next to Sarah Jessica Parker on the C train, let her know how you feel about the <em>Sex and the City</em> reboot, e.g., &#8220;Too many lesbians!&#8221; And if you ever see a famous comedian at the Harlem DMV, tell them a joke starting with &#8220;a guy goes to the doctor,&#8221; then give the comic permission to use it in his or her act. They will thank you for it.</p><p><strong>Offer your opinions about their life choices.</strong> Celebrities want to know how their most personal&#8212;and often quite painful&#8212;experiences resonate with the general public. Whether it&#8217;s a dissolved marriage, a terminated pregnancy from their college years, or a public scandal involving their children (the ones who lived), definitely chime in with your thoughts. If a network news anchor&#8217;s husband cheated on her, suggest that it was her fault. If an actor&#8217;s child has well-publicized mental health challenges, tell him his &#8220;spoiled kid needs Jesus in her life.&#8221; Never mind that you&#8217;ve punted on two ex-spouses, can&#8217;t balance your checkbook, and serve yourself Xanax from a Pez dispenser, celebrity life choices are everyone&#8217;s business.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-talk-to-famous-people?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-talk-to-famous-people?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p><strong>Give them financial advice. </strong>Because celebs are busy being famous, they don&#8217;t have time to seek out innovative investment vehicles. I bet Debra Messing has never even heard of Bitcoin! So it&#8217;s up to you to break crypto down for her on the M86 bus. And if you ever bump into Kevin Bacon while waiting for your chai latte, tell him you never would have fallen for &#8220;the Bernie Madoff thing.&#8221; He&#8217;ll appreciate the sentiment.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NErK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5e1ac37-ae6c-49ca-848b-dd8fbbae1528_1136x682.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NErK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5e1ac37-ae6c-49ca-848b-dd8fbbae1528_1136x682.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;See Debs&#8212;can I call you Debs?&#8212; it&#8217;s like a giant, digital ledger, Debs&#8230;.&#8221; (OpenAI)</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Get their contact information. </strong>Even though you share a great moment with Hugh Jackman at the restaurant urinal, he might be too shy to ask you for your digits. So while he&#8217;s washing his hands, grab his phone and start punching in your number. He&#8217;ll definitely call.</p><p><strong>Pretend You Don&#8217;t Know Who They Are. </strong><em>**Pro level move**</em><strong> </strong>I once snuck into a party of very important people. After serving myself generously from the buffet and open bar, I chose a seat on the banquette next to a beautiful woman. I said, &#8220;Hi, I&#8217;m Paul.&#8221; She replied with a polite smile, &#8220;Hello, I&#8217;m Beyonce.&#8221; I shook my head, chuckled, and said &#8220;Sure you are.&#8221; Then we laughed and laughed. Now I&#8217;m on the Carters&#8217; Christmas card list.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z2Rw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfd2da7-051b-47bc-a8e1-d13ad53a29cf_1698x952.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z2Rw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfd2da7-051b-47bc-a8e1-d13ad53a29cf_1698x952.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z2Rw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecfd2da7-051b-47bc-a8e1-d13ad53a29cf_1698x952.png 848w, 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If they don&#8217;t agree immediately, follow them down the sidewalk, loudly shaming them for selfishness: </p><p>&#8220;As if you&#8217;re soooo busy, Mo Rocca! It&#8217;s not like you&#8217;re Mariska Hargitay!&#8221;</p><p>So there&#8217;s your play book. Let me know how it goes.</p><p>THE END</p><p>*it&#8217;s &#8220;on line&#8221; not &#8220;in line,&#8221; you bucktoothed hayseed.</p><p style="text-align: center;">PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-talk-to-famous-people/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-talk-to-famous-people/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>COME SEE ME TELL JOKES! &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Barry&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:309960081,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F448276cf-788f-4fb7-aed4-783bb66b8dd1_800x800.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;d556d4d4-be58-4d56-906a-a174184e00ac&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> on the first episode of <em>5 Questions</em>, my bite-sized, live-streamed Substack interview show that I&#8217;ll be producing in addition to longer-form episodes of <em>Reasonably Happy</em>. </p><p>Dave&#8217;s column was syndicated to hundreds of newspapers around the globe for several decades. He has published dozens of books on myriad topics that sold millions of copies&#8212;of books, not topics&#8212;in 22 languages. <em>The New York Times</em> called him &#8220;the funniest man in America.&#8221; (And when has the NYT ever been wrong?)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSLj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3626c488-86df-44a4-bb04-d57d9dea0412_984x766.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSLj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3626c488-86df-44a4-bb04-d57d9dea0412_984x766.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Hey Floridians - I&#8217;ll be at McCurdy&#8217;s in Sarasota 8/13-16. See my other dates (Atlanta, Chattanooga, SF, LA, NYC) <a href="https://punchup.live/paulollinger">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In other words, he&#8217;s accomplished an incredible amount in the funny game, and I was thrilled to talk to him. In this fast-moving 30-min chat, we talk about:</p><ul><li><p>What he&#8217;s looking for in a nursing home.</p></li><li><p>Advice for shepherding my kids through the college search process (even though it doesn&#8217;t matter where they end up)</p></li><li><p>The rock band he plays in with Stephen King, Amy Tan, Roy Blount, Jr., Scott Turow, and many other best-selling authors</p></li><li><p>Which other writers make him laugh</p></li><li><p>What Baby Boomers could learn from Gen Z (and vice versa)</p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Sign up for more great interviews and funny essays &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Thank you all, including <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Doug Berg&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:334195673,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@bergsbrain&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/de4a2e0a-1810-42c0-9b75-9da96418a32a_12500x12500.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;97c0222f-29f0-4278-a4e3-5b3e55bebda8&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Erased Replaced&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:18756891,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@erasedreplaced&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8cdc8c73-7812-44cd-9af6-8ab8c61704fe_1932x1932.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;65c59696-435e-41ca-bf20-10784159fcc2&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, and many others for tuning into the live stream! See my favorite clips below.</p><p>Oh, and here&#8217;s the photo I shared at the top of the show&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tjX_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a61c792-9620-4194-b9b1-08708ade3c91_3023x2760.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tjX_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a61c792-9620-4194-b9b1-08708ade3c91_3023x2760.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tjX_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a61c792-9620-4194-b9b1-08708ade3c91_3023x2760.jpeg 848w, 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And the last thing you want to see when you&#8217;re my age is people who are your age. They&#8217;re all the walking dead and it&#8217;s very depressing to think, oh my god, that&#8217;s her. She was hot in high school.</p><p><em>Paul:</em> And now she&#8217;s pulling an oxygen tank.</p><p><em>Dave:</em> Yeah. So I don&#8217;t want to have any other residents in my nursing home. And there should be somebody who can make a decent vodka gimlet there. Really important to me Not the kind where they just pour a mix I mean the kind they shake it with a shaker I want to see the shaker when I go to the nursing home That&#8217;s the first thing I want to see Where&#8217;s the shaker? So no residents, and good vodka gimlet.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;bc091442-1a77-4b61-bd5c-b316a028f353&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>Advice on parenting college kids (00:24:19):</strong></h5><blockquote><p>While your child is in college, move to a different house and do not tell your child where that house is. And that way, when it&#8217;s time for them to make their way into the world, they will have to.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;ee1fa4a2-4263-4570-b93b-e0226b04dadc&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h5><strong>What Boomers could learn from Gen Z (00:12:07):</strong></h5><blockquote><p><em>Dave:</em> What am I going to learn from Gen Z? Well, I think one thing, I will say this, and it&#8217;s often used as a criticism of them, but there&#8217;s some truth to it, I think. They&#8217;re not, like, killing themselves. You know what I mean?</p><p><em>Paul:</em> From a work perspective?</p><p><em>Dave:</em> Yes, From a work perspective. And I don&#8217;t mean to generalize all of them or anything like that. But I mean, when I was in my mid-20s, I think most of us were kind of intense about whatever career we were pursuing. I was at newspapers and I had friends who were like various other things. But they seem a little more chill about that. And it could be because the boomers have so screwed up the world that they realize there&#8217;s absolutely no point in trying to succeed so maybe it&#8217;s just they&#8217;re reacting to us but they do seem to have a little bit more like you know what we&#8217;re gonna enjoy ourselves.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;0cee7c75-0e2c-439c-b2ab-b33cb0f665da&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><p>Come see me tell jokes (or give a talk), in person:</p><ul><li><p>June 4 - Atlanta Athletic Club</p></li><li><p>June 5 and 6 - <a href="https://laughingskulllounge.com/events/">Laughing Skull Lounge</a>, Atlanta</p></li><li><p>June 12 - Wade Hampton Country Club, Cashiers, NC (Talk)</p></li><li><p>June 19 and 20 - <a href="https://www.thecomedycatch.com/events/133790">The Comedy Catch</a>, Chattanooga</p></li><li><p>June 25 - <a href="https://punchup.live/show/454b032e-4a51-4f86-a93b-ba81829aaca8">Happy Couples Show</a>, West Side Comedy Club, NYC</p></li><li><p>July 21 - The Venice West, Los Angeles (on sale soon)</p></li><li><p>July 23 - <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/2-pauls-1-show-paul-ollinger-san-francisco-california-07-23-2026/event/1C00647FB330F46A">Cobbs Comedy Club</a>, San Francisco</p></li><li><p>Aug 1 - <a href="https://www.sticksandstonescomedyclub.com/shows/357527">Sticks and Stones Comedy Club</a>, Southampton, NY</p></li><li><p>Aug 8 - Atlanta Country Club</p></li><li><p>Aug 13-16 - <a href="https://www.mccurdyscomedy.com/shows/show.cfm?shoID=499">McCurdy&#8217;s Comedy Theatre</a>, Sarasota, FL</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Outdoor Furniture Conundrum]]></title><description><![CDATA[There are no good choices]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-outdoor-furniture-conundrum</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-outdoor-furniture-conundrum</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 09:45:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KJ2d!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8760382-3026-4d62-a06e-7cbc764970b2_1832x958.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In anticipation of summer, my wife and I are shopping for outdoor furniture. We should have started the process sooner, but no one here thinks about socializing alfresco during winter, and New York&#8217;s version of  &#8220;spring&#8221; has been teasing us since March.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KJ2d!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8760382-3026-4d62-a06e-7cbc764970b2_1832x958.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KJ2d!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8760382-3026-4d62-a06e-7cbc764970b2_1832x958.png 424w, 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class="cta-caption">Share with some of your beautiful friends&#8230;</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-outdoor-furniture-conundrum?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-outdoor-furniture-conundrum?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p>Resigned to another sweltering summer in the city, we&#8217;ll make the most of our stingy air conditioning and the outdoor space we are fortunate to possess. But without something to sit on, it&#8217;s not terribly useful.</p><p>Our current outdoor furniture, which belonged to our apartment&#8217;s previous owners, is falling apart&#8212;and not surprisingly. NYC weather inflicts destruction on anything left outside for more than an hour.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D1Tf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2b0f667-b2b9-49ca-a241-f88444e1e77a_330x346.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D1Tf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2b0f667-b2b9-49ca-a241-f88444e1e77a_330x346.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D1Tf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2b0f667-b2b9-49ca-a241-f88444e1e77a_330x346.png 848w, 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The result is corroded, splintery arm rests and cushions baked to a dangerous, crispy edge. </p><p>So, we got to Googling replacement options, and were reminded quickly that outdoor furniture comes in only two varieties:</p><p><em>1.</em> <strong>Absurdly Expensive.</strong> You can purchase high quality product from a place like Pottery Barn or Crate and Barrel, but paying for it will require either liquidating your children&#8217;s 529 Plans, selling your plasma, or both. <em>(Note: if you consider Pottery Barn a cost-effective option, please upgrade to a paid subscription.)</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>2. <strong>El Cheapo.</strong> However, if you shop on Amazon or Wayfair, you can get an 18-piece outdoor set for $449. Granted, these more economical options are manufactured in Myanmar by a one-armed 6-year-old, contain highly flammable carcinogens, and&#8212;worst of all&#8212;will require me to assemble them. But the savings are massive, especially when you calculate the &#8220;all-in&#8221; cost.</p><p>When you first go to the Pottery Barn website, you&#8217;ll see something that looks somewhat reasonably priced, until you realize that the cushions are sold separately, like the creamed spinach at Smith &amp; Wollensky. Speaking of extras, since you&#8217;re paying top dollar, you&#8217;ll want to protect your purchase with the fitted furniture covers for an extra&#8212;I&#8217;m not kidding&#8212;$900, i.e., twice the cost of the whole shebang in Option #2. You could <em>easily</em> drop fifteen grand on something the local pigeons will soon be using as a toilet.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sRaf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1023418-8892-4713-8199-8387a0e24790_298x353.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sRaf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1023418-8892-4713-8199-8387a0e24790_298x353.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sRaf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1023418-8892-4713-8199-8387a0e24790_298x353.png 848w, 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But, &#8220;only&#8221; five years? That feels like an eternity to me. Never mind that I could be dead tomorrow, but at 20% of the price, I could replace it four times for the same cost as Option 1, providing a seat for my butt well into my 90s.</p><p>Yes, we&#8217;d be contributing to the environmental disaster that is our planet, inviting side-eye from Greta Thunberg, and displacing some 5<sup>th</sup> generation Tuscan wicker artisan. But that&#8217;s a small price to pay to be able to afford whatever over-priced college my teenagers will inevitably choose.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>You could <em>easily</em> drop fifteen grand on something the local pigeons will soon be using as a toilet.</p></div><p>Of course, to go this route, we&#8217;d have to factor in the expense of furniture disposal. It would cost nothing for me to chuck the old stuff over our balcony wall, six floors down to the street below. This would be the easiest&#8212;and most enjoyable&#8212;method, though I would risk injuring my neighbor and her cute bulldog mix, Chicken.</p><p>You know what, I&#8217;m overwhelmed by the all the choices of furniture available, and the idea of hiring someone to remove our old stuff is too much for me to handle right now. I think I&#8217;ll risk splinters in my keister this summer and deal with it next year.</p><p>Besides, there are only 209 more days until winter.</p><p>THE END</p><p style="text-align: center;">What should I do?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-outdoor-furniture-conundrum/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-outdoor-furniture-conundrum/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p>Hey - you like to laugh, right? 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type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pullquote"><p>&#8220;Happiness is a choice <strong>that requires effort </strong>at times.&#8221; -Aeschylus </p></div><p>Whenever I go back and re-listen to one of my podcast interviews, I always discover elements of the conversation I didn&#8217;t recall.  <br><br>Upon revisiting this 2025 conversation with best-selling author <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Gretchen Rubin&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:6355903,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ai3j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26e7d78f-f05f-4930-884f-f09b24c25c3d_951x951.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;36642f4c-ee00-47af-bfff-69ad6dd16efc&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, I of course remembered that she is a warrior for happiness and the practices that help her huge readership attain it.</p><p>But listening again, I was struck by how cool Gretchen is. Not &#8220;cool&#8221; in a biker-jacket / beat poetry / clove cigarette way, but in the &#8220;I know who I am, what I&#8217;m committed to, and how I can add value to the world&#8221; way.  </p><p>I don&#8217;t claim to know Gretchen, but it seems logical to me that this self-awareness is a by-product of the kind of work she evangelizes. </p><p>And it is work. As Aeschylus advised in the quote above, happiness is always there if we choose it, but only if&#8212;in the hard times&#8212;we are willing to get off the couch or smile through the pain. </p><p>In times like these, Gretchen&#8217;s writing can help us find a path through the noise and, as she describes it, &#8220;identify ways we can take happiness from the transcendent to the concrete.&#8221;</p><p>A great way to start that process is to listen (or re-listen) to this episode and take her happiness quiz <a href="https://gretchenrubin.com/quiz/">here</a>. You can also find many more applicable insights on Gretchen&#8217;s Substack, <a href="https://secretsofadulthood.substack.com/?utm_campaign=profile_chips">Secrets of Adulthood</a>.</p><p>Remember, happiness is growth&#8212;keep growing! </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2>Some of my favorite quotes (and a couple of clips)</h2><p></p><h4><em><strong>On Process v. Outcomes (07:50)</strong></em></h4><blockquote><p>One of my 12 my personal commandments of happiness is to <strong>enjoy the process.</strong> Because, the fact is, if you enjoy the process, you don&#8217;t care as much about the outcome. Still you might really <strong>want to have a positive outcome</strong>, but if you enjoy the process, if it doesn&#8217;t work out the way you want, it&#8217;s not as bitter.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;2f8ecd2b-1c3a-4334-adb4-2f109458d63f&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h4><em><strong>Do actions follow feelings or vice versa? (37:20)</strong></em></h4><blockquote><p>We think that actions follow feelings, but to a great degree <strong>feelings follow actions</strong>. And so  if you want to change your emotional state, it&#8217;s often by changing your conscious thoughts and actions&#8212;that&#8217;s often a good way to get into your emotional state. So if you&#8217;re feeling tired, if you act with energy you&#8217;re gonna start to feel more energetic. Or if you&#8217;re feeling shy, if you act you push yourself to act friendly, you&#8217;ll feel more friendly. Yeah, that&#8217;s fake until you feel it. That&#8217;s not &#8220;be inauthentic and present a totally imposter false sense to the world and then that somehow will become your truth.&#8221; That&#8217;s more about when people want to change their own emotional state, when they&#8217;re like, &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to feel this way.&#8221; It&#8217;s &#8220;okay, I have to stand up in front of an audience and I don&#8217;t feel like doing it.&#8221; It&#8217;s like, okay, well, stand up straighter, act with more energy. Command the room.</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/gretchen-rubin-will-teach-you-to?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Share this conversation with someone who will benefit from its </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/gretchen-rubin-will-teach-you-to?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/gretchen-rubin-will-teach-you-to?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h4><em><strong>On money and happiness (41:20)</strong></em></h4><blockquote><p><strong>Money may not buy happiness</strong>, but it buys many things that contribute mightily to happiness. <strong>It&#8217;s like health</strong> where if you have it, you never think about it. But if you don&#8217;t have it, it&#8217;s really going to pull you down. So the lack of it will pull you down very much. But having it is very easy to take it for granted.</p><p>&#8212; Gretchen Rubin</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;2be6f8b8-4e82-4cb2-8d23-83c18e5c048d&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h4><em><strong>How to think about happiness (45:30)</strong></em></h4><blockquote><p>If you&#8217;re thinking about how to make your life happier, you should think about feeling good, feeling bad, and feeling right in <strong>an atmosphere of growth</strong>.</p></blockquote><h4><em><strong>The importance of growth (47:25)</strong></em></h4><blockquote><p>You want to feel like you&#8217;re growing. We want to feel like <strong>we&#8217;re making progress</strong>, like we&#8217;re fixing things, we&#8217;re learning things, we&#8217;re gaining skills, we&#8217;re putting something into the world.</p></blockquote><h4><em><strong>Is happiness a choice? (52:03)</strong></em></h4><blockquote><p><strong>It always confuses me</strong> when people say that happiness is a choice. I just don&#8217;t understand what they mean by that. Clearly for people, it&#8217;s very meaningful because people say that to me, <strong>it just sort of doesn&#8217;t make sense</strong>, but this idea that it requires effort&#8212;that you would do things deliberately, thinking this is gonna make me &#8230; I&#8217;m gonna tackle &#8216;Feeling Good / Feeling Bad / Feeling Right in An Atmosphere of Growth by doing things with my conscious thoughts and actions &#8212; I completely agree. It does take effort. </p></blockquote><div><hr></div><p><em>Reasonably Happy <a href="https://read.substack.com/p/https://words.paulollinger.com/">is a podcast</a> hosted by me, comedian Paul Ollinger, featuring conversations that explore the connection between success and happiness. From academics to athletes and from pastors to porn stars, I talk to some pretty amazing people.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS&#8230; </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/gretchen-rubin-will-teach-you-to/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/gretchen-rubin-will-teach-you-to/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Come see me tell jokes (or give a talk), in person:</p><ul><li><p>June 4 - Atlanta Athletic Club</p></li><li><p>June 5 and 6 - <a href="https://laughingskulllounge.com/events/">Laughing Skull Lounge</a>, Atlanta</p></li><li><p>June 12 - Wade Hampton Country Club, Cashiers, NC (Talk)</p></li><li><p>June 19 and 20 - <a href="https://www.thecomedycatch.com/events/133790">The Comedy Catch</a>, Chattanooga</p></li><li><p>June 25 - <a href="https://punchup.live/show/454b032e-4a51-4f86-a93b-ba81829aaca8">Happy Couples Show</a>, West Side Comedy Club, NYC</p></li><li><p>July 21 - The Venice West, Los Angeles (on sale soon)</p></li><li><p>July 23 - <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/2-pauls-1-show-paul-ollinger-san-francisco-california-07-23-2026/event/1C00647FB330F46A">Cobbs Comedy Club</a>, San Francisco</p></li><li><p>Aug 1 - <a href="https://www.sticksandstonescomedyclub.com/shows/357527">Sticks and Stones Comedy Club</a>, Southampton, NY</p></li><li><p>Aug 8 - Atlanta Country Club</p></li><li><p>Aug 13-16 - <a href="https://www.mccurdyscomedy.com/shows/show.cfm?shoID=499">McCurdy&#8217;s Comedy Theatre</a>, Sarasota, FL</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Money, Family & Comedy w/Roy Wood Jr.]]></title><description><![CDATA[My guest today is Roy Wood, Jr.]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/money-family-and-comedy-wroy-wood</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/money-family-and-comedy-wroy-wood</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 09:36:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/197519660/62fa141d6a5cc44790c0baa9aabd50e5.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guest today is Roy Wood, Jr. </p><p>You know him from <em>The Daily Show</em> and from his acclaimed stand-up specials, where he proves that smart comedy can still hit hard. </p><p>A native of Birmingham, AL, Roy has that rare ability to make you laugh while also making you think&#8212;whether he&#8217;s talking about race, class, media, relationships, or the strange little hypocrisies we all live with.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vMNM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52c9049f-89c5-49fd-84ea-2ceb9a707166_1326x956.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vMNM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52c9049f-89c5-49fd-84ea-2ceb9a707166_1326x956.png 424w, 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He is now the host of the CNN current events-comedy show, <em>Have I Got News for You. </em></p><p>His 2025 memoir, <em>The Man of Many Fathers</em> explores&#8212;among other things&#8212;Roy&#8217;s complicated relationship with his father, Roy Wood, Sr., a civil rights journalist and African American radio pioneer.</p><p>Today, Roy and I talk about money, family, fatherhood, and we go deep on the craft of comedy.</p><p>Speaking of comedy, see my upcoming shows below. Save the date / buy your tickets!</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/money-family-and-comedy-wroy-wood?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/money-family-and-comedy-wroy-wood?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p><strong>COMEDY NEAR YOU - GET YOUR TICKETS!</strong></p><ul><li><p>May 16: QED, Astoria Queens, 9:30</p></li><li><p>May 20: Dunwoody Country Club (members only)</p></li><li><p>May 21: <a href="https://www.punchline.com/comic/?id=6803&amp;comic=2%20Pauls%2C%201%20Show">Atlanta Punchline</a> - ON SALE</p></li><li><p>May 22-23: <a href="https://www.dccomedyloft.com/events/135737">DC Comedy Loft</a> ON SALE</p></li><li><p>June 4: Atlanta Athletic Club (members only)</p></li><li><p>June 19-20: <a href="https://www.thecomedycatch.com/events/133790">Comedy Catch, Chattanooga</a> ON SALE</p></li><li><p>June 25: Couples Therapy Comedy <a href="https://www.westsidecomedyclub.com/calendar">at West Side Comedy Club</a>, NYC </p></li><li><p>July 21: The Venice West, Los Angeles - On Sale soon</p></li><li><p>July 23: <a href="https://www.ticketmaster.com/2-pauls-1-show-paul-ollinger-san-francisco-california-07-23-2026/event/1C00647FB330F46A?_gl=1*87wtm5*_ga*MTM1Mjk3NTAyMS4xNzc4NjcyMTg5*_ga_C1T806G4DF*czE3Nzg2NzIxODkkbzEkZzAkdDE3Nzg2NzIxODkkajYwJGwwJGgw">Cobbs Comedy Club</a>, San Francisco - ON SALE</p></li><li><p>Aug 1: <a href="https://www.sticksandstonescomedyclub.com/shows/357527">Sticks and Stones Comedy Club</a>, Southampton, NY - </p></li><li><p>Aug 8: Atlanta Country Club (members only)</p></li><li><p>Aug 13-16: Headlining <a href="https://www.mccurdyscomedy.com/shows/show.cfm?shoID=499">McCurdy&#8217;s in Sarasota</a>, FL - ON SALE</p></li><li><p>October 15: Capital City Country Club (members only)</p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How to Get Rich in America]]></title><description><![CDATA[With Joseph Moore]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-get-rich-in-america</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/how-to-get-rich-in-america</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2026 09:45:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/196469827/89abba38269cb6d391d0a2b32dde8802.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Capitalism is rigged!&#8221; cry the masses. </p><p>&#8220;Nobody gets ahead anymore,&#8221; says the mainstream press. </p><p>And 60% of young people believe that the American Dream is dead! </p><p>But my guest today calls this hogwash, baloney, and complete malarkey. <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Joseph Moore&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:35010501,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c135f60e-580c-47bd-8921-dcc9c4a8da87_4000x4000.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;24572784-3097-405d-8c03-f75fa913d2e8&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> is a historian, entrepreneur, investor, and the author of a new book called <em>How to Get Rich In American History: 300 Years of Financial Advice that Worked (And didn&#8217;t) </em>in which he explores how ambition, risk, and reinvention have shaped America from the very beginning.</p><p>He also reveals the money myths, sacred cows, side hustles, and NAYsayers that have always been a part of our society. </p><p>What if so-called timeless beliefs about money like &#8220;invest for the long run,&#8221; &#8220;compound interest builds wealth,&#8221; and &#8220;real estate always goes up&#8221; weren&#8217;t always true&#8230;and play out less often than you think they do? </p><p>Joseph&#8217;s book is part history, part playbook, and part reality check. He brings lessons to life with rigor that is deeper than an oil well and a wit that is dryer than the Texas plains. And in so doing he demystifies the past in order to clarify the present for anyone thinking about money, success, and what it really means to &#8220;make it&#8221; in America.</p><p>Follow Joseph <a href="https://www.josephmoorebooks.com/">here</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Where were you at 30?]]></title><description><![CDATA[I was in the Moat of Low Status]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/where-were-you-at-30</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/where-were-you-at-30</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 18:46:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xM6g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F256136c7-a7a5-4b0d-a8d9-72c159d94473_1370x988.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently met up with two business school pals for dinner. As we waited for our table and enjoyed a cocktail in the bar, we started talking to a couple of younger guys.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xM6g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F256136c7-a7a5-4b0d-a8d9-72c159d94473_1370x988.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xM6g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F256136c7-a7a5-4b0d-a8d9-72c159d94473_1370x988.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xM6g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F256136c7-a7a5-4b0d-a8d9-72c159d94473_1370x988.png 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Oh to have more hair than money&#8230;</figcaption></figure></div><p>They were recent Kellogg MBA grads who worked for a very large online retailer. (I won&#8217;t say which one, but it&#8217;s as big as a South American river.) </p><p>Friendly and respectfully curious, they asked us about our career paths. They were duly impressed with my accomplished classmates&#8212;a hedge fund manager and former start-up executive who has rung the bell a few times. I&#8217;ve done all right myself.</p><p>Then one of the guys asked an excellent question: &#8220;Where were you at 30?&#8221;</p><p>I laughed, pointed to the software leader, and said, &#8220;When I was 30, I was deep in debt, sharing a two-bedroom, one-bathroom walk-up with this guy, and working in an industry that was unravelling violently.&#8221;</p><p>The young men smiled at my unimpressive answer. I elaborated.</p><p>On my 31st birthday in March 2000, the stock market was in free fall. The Nasdaq Composite index lost 1/3 of its value in four weeks, on its way to shedding 80% over 18 months.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I write about money, careers, and life. I try to keep it funny.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>LAUNCH.com, the digital music company where I worked was vaporizing alongside the rest of the Internet 1.0 economy. Three rounds of layoffs eliminated four out of five of my colleagues, and I barely survived the cuts.</p><p>I had sold exactly none of my stock because, foolishly, I believed holding onto it was a sign of loyalty. And when Yahoo! finally bought us for loose change that Jerry Yang found in his couch cushions, my payout bought me a desktop PC running Windows Millennium Edition.</p><p>Around this time, I confessed my financial situation to a new girlfriend&#8212;a dotcom multimillionaire who was smart enough to cash out. Despite my full head of hair and low-carb-lean body, she was not impressed.</p><p>The new grads laughed at my pain. When I divulged that liquidating my equity would have paid off my $80,000 in loans&#8212;$150,000 in today&#8217;s dollars, they traded fist-bumps hearing a balance similar to their own.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BMSH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7025b7a2-c94b-4b7c-8086-643b9c322dfd_1536x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BMSH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7025b7a2-c94b-4b7c-8086-643b9c322dfd_1536x1024.png 424w, 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Come see me. (This silly theme goes back to me playing with divinity-themed AI image creations for <a href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/trump-and-the-profane">my last post</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Then my hedge fund buddy shared his story. Right out of business school, he had taken the strategic consulting route. The lucrative pay package funded a nice apartment and the ability to chip away at his tuition debt.</p><p>But he found the work unsatisfying and decided he wanted to be an equities trader, a position for which he was positioned poorly. So, he quit the consulting gig and gave up his flat. He lived like a monk for almost two years while taking trading courses and networking with a seemingly irrational persistence, until he finally cracked the industry.</p><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:510686}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><p>The bold bet on himself worked. Today, he&#8217;s reaping meaningful rewards in the form of both career satisfaction and financial compensation.</p><p>My other friend at 30 years-old was on a more consistent progression up the success ladder, propelled by a brilliant financial mind and a .1% work ethic that has barely diminished almost three decades later.</p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/where-were-you-at-30?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Share this with a young professional who&#8217;s working hard to figure it out.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/p/where-were-you-at-30?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://words.paulollinger.com/p/where-were-you-at-30?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p>One of the benefits of having an ally like him is his ability to see the bigger picture. On a drive to the airport back from an early 2002 ski trip&#8212;as single, childless dudes, we could still find a few bucks for the important things&#8212;I was lamenting my situation. He put it into perspective.</p><p>&#8220;Okay, this girl&#8217;s not into you. Whatever,&#8221; he said. &#8220;You&#8217;ve got a good job at Yahoo! and stock options that could be a game-changer. Just keep your head down and keep moving forward.&#8221;</p><p>That&#8217;s what I did, and that&#8217;s exactly what happened.</p><p>Three years later, I was a millionaire.</p><p></p><h4><em>How am I doing?</em></h4><p>I took the young Amazonian&#8217;s question as a rhetorical check in&#8212;was he doing okay? Up to this point in life, he has done all the right things. Yet, despite having an impressive degree and a great job, he feels as if he&#8217;s not where he should be.</p><p>This is natural. Young people think careers are linear. Older folks know they can be jagged and often chaotic. And that&#8217;s okay.</p><p>In her forthcoming book <em>You Can Just Do Things</em>, author <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Cate Hall&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:29458493,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e7cf5ecc-aba6-4863-a6fe-f7265863ec01_3072x3072.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;8f4c9195-48d2-4d67-a61d-63a270a761b1&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>&#8212;a former drug addict, poker champion, and tech CEO&#8212;discusses the importance of embracing the &#8220;Moat of Low Status.&#8221;</p><p>Hall argues that many people spend part of their twenties and thirties in a bit of a ditch&#8212;an uncomfortable stretch where your peers seem to be pulling ahead while your own life feels uncertain, underfunded, and unimpressive.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Pre-order Cate&#8217;s book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/You-Can-Just-Things-High-Agency/dp/B0FPRP44PQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=27Q7J8EU3UZSW&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KTiF_qgCmIR9ZFik0cEzD2lPyROP4kM-o22gRQTGqSbGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.2IRlCdCB58l60f_WC9nOI96Nc-3Tem5UiLvswShM4Xg&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=you+can+just+do+things+cate+hall&amp;qid=1778090253&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=you+cna+just+do+things+cate+hall%2Cstripbooks%2C104&amp;sr=1-1">here</a>. </figcaption></figure></div><p>But the moat has advantages. It shrinks your ego. It forces you to adapt. And you persevere because you have no choice.</p><p>Over time, however, good things happen. Opportunities arise that were not visible from the other side of the moat, and the path makes itself known. It happened to me, to Mister Hedge Fund, and it happened to Cate.</p><p>I&#8217;ll bet you a desktop PC that it will happen to these two young guys as well. </p><p>On their way out the door, my new friends swung by our table to say goodbye. I did my best to return their Gen Y daps, and gave them the best advice I could.</p><p>&#8220;Keep your heads down, boys. And keep moving forward.&#8221;</p><p>THE END</p><p>(hey &#8212; please share your thoughts in the Comments section &#8595;&#8595;&#8595;&#8595;)</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Fragile Power of Wealth]]></title><description><![CDATA[with Dr. Paul Hokemeyer]]></description><link>https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-fragile-power-of-wealth</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://words.paulollinger.com/p/the-fragile-power-of-wealth</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ollinger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 09:34:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/195681582/93c1c7b752511e25832dcd40b8cc870d.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve ever wondered if having everything you&#8217;ve ever wanted would make you feel like a complete human being, this episode is for you.</p><p>My guest today is Dr. Paul Hokemeyer, a psychotherapist who works almost exclusively with ultra-high-net-worth individuals&#8212;the kind of people most of us assume have life completely figured out.</p><p>Spoiler alert: they don&#8217;t.</p><p>Dr. Hokemeyer is the author of <em>Fragile Power</em>, a fascinating look at the emotional and psychological challenges that come with extreme wealth, fame, status, and success. In his work, he&#8217;s seen firsthand how money can insulate people from consequences, distort relationships, and quietly fuel addiction, anxiety, and isolation.</p><p>In other words, he has a front-row seat to the uncomfortable truth behind the fantasy.</p><p>Today, we talk about why power is more fragile than it looks, how wealth can complicate identity and purpose, and what it actually takes&#8212;whether you&#8217;re worth $10,000 or $10 billion&#8212;to build a life that feels meaningful.</p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://words.paulollinger.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">For more great conversations about money, </p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>